tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909166734000323323.post1209304813914170698..comments2022-01-21T18:03:18.183-08:00Comments on THE CHAGALL POSITION: “The Viewer is Diverted,” or, The Handke-EffektEdmond Caldwellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02651618912907453630noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909166734000323323.post-44997753292065768862008-11-09T18:51:00.000-08:002008-11-09T18:51:00.000-08:00Hi Michael:Thank you for writing; I’m pleased if y...Hi Michael:<BR/><BR/>Thank you for writing; I’m pleased if you found anything in my Handke posts useful. Handke’s works are only beginning to show me all the different ways they can resist my reading them, at least in any way other than according to their own sui generis protocols. No matter how “deeply” I seem to get into them, I always end up back on the surface of the page, and I suppose I feel like he’s doing something similar with his depictions (displacements) of consciousness as well, where every depth turns out to be another surface (the innerworld of the outerworld of the innerworld -- world without end). <BR/><BR/>You would be the person to ask this: Have Handke's early nonfiction writings, specifically the essay “I am an Ivory Tower Dweller” and the text of his Gruppe 47 denunciation, ever been translated and published in English? I haven’t been able to find them anywhere so far…<BR/><BR/>Please drop us a line when you finish your work on Del Gredos and let us know where readers will be able to find it. <BR/><BR/>Best regards,<BR/>EdmondEdmond Caldwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651618912907453630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909166734000323323.post-20208925264500405072008-11-08T19:17:00.000-08:002008-11-08T19:17:00.000-08:00edmond, glad to intrigue you. i just visited your ...edmond, glad to intrigue you. i just visited your site, to quote your take in its entirety as part of matters i address in DEL GREDOS. As to technical matters: take another look at the first page of GOALIE... where does it transport you, and HOW is that achieved, and the purpose I would say is to get us closer to the INTERIORITY of the subject, you had it right there about INNER AND OUTER! And being an Adornoite progressive I would say Handke does this to enable prose to be more communicative... that there are personal urges for that is true too. From chapter 3 to near the end of Chapter 10 I would say Handke achieves that UNITY while his subject and narrator become ONE! Anchored in images, also somewhat defensively I would say. Specifically, what the opening of GOALIE puts you in is what Kleinian pschychoanlysts call the "paranoid schizophrenic" position a kind of fundamental stage we pass through, can regress to, but poor paranoi Bloch who makes all these misassumptions is stuck in with murderous consequences! He reappears in Walk About the Villages as a worker who has spent some time in jail, and still has a lot of sadistic jokes up his sleeves. otherwise GOALIE is not that innovative technically, except that once you as the reader are caught in that position... not until that ambiguous ending does the book really let go even though its other narrative means are phenomenology, Handke's greatest strength, and some expressionistic passages... will be done with the <BR/>Del Gredos in another week I pray.SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909166734000323323.post-71214616539962954512008-10-17T05:54:00.000-07:002008-10-17T05:54:00.000-07:00'each step is a kind of displacement of the whole ...'each step is a kind of displacement of the whole idea of "going forward," '<BR/><BR/>I like this and think it applies quite well to Handke.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08014014605639738887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909166734000323323.post-23027843911293973302008-10-16T20:42:00.000-07:002008-10-16T20:42:00.000-07:00Sorry for taking so long to thank you both, Michae...Sorry for taking so long to thank you both, Michael and LML, for your comments. <BR/><BR/>Michael: Your remarks intrigue me. I've been interested in thinking about Handke and cinema since I read Short Letter, Long Farewell, where the protagonist and his wife visit John Ford at his ranch at the conclusion. And I plan to think further about H. as "the completer of the Brechtian project of an anti-Aristotelean catharsis" -- but I'm afraid I haven't yet read any of his drama other than Insulting the Audience. I have valued your Handke websites for a while now and I look forward to reading your commentary on Del Gredos.<BR/><BR/>Hi LML: You're right, Part II of my Handke post will explicitly discuss what I see as "the effekt of the effekt"; Part I was intended to identify it. I certainly didn't find H's work "particularly stunning on the technical front" either when I first started in. I was stirred, troubled, unsettled, baffled, a little bored at times, again baffled, but always intrigued. He grew on me; stunning's not the word for what I think is technically brilliant (altho' brilliant's not the word either) about his work, because it's always so quiet. It moves at the pace of a walk, and each step is a kind of displacement of the whole idea of "going forward," if that makes any sense . . .Edmond Caldwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651618912907453630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909166734000323323.post-89434712671487070402008-10-13T22:51:00.000-07:002008-10-13T22:51:00.000-07:00This is deft analysis, and maybe I should just wai...This is deft analysis, and maybe I should just wait for part II, but my immediate question is: what is the effekt of the effekt (assuming there is one beyond subtle defamiliarization)? Is this just a signature, or is it of ontological importance? I've only read "Goalie" and "Once Again for Thucydides," both of which I found first-rate but not particularly stunning on the technical front.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909166734000323323.post-65259341377785592282008-10-12T09:10:00.000-07:002008-10-12T09:10:00.000-07:00I am exceedingly happy to come on this post. Handk...I am exceedingly happy to come on this post. Handke-Effect is as good a name as any,<BR/>Let us go to the opening of the book, a camera zooms in, a very classical narrative, which then devolves to writing in dream<BR/>syntax, if we are looking for an explanation of the abandonment of the Newtownian laws of physics, the purpose is indeed somewhat multiply didactic. The business about the UN dragging one of its destroyed trucks westward is a bit of wish fulfillment joke if you know Handke's amour fou for Yugoslavia. In the subsequent huge novel, CROSSING THE SIERRA DEL GREDOS a camera is evident that is prose enhanced by film to the extent that it can be [see the novel ABSENCE whose reading is experienced as that of watching a film to see where this venture to bring prose into the contemporary world of possibilities enters Handke's repertoire.<BR/>I myself am just doing a very long resume of Handke's development as a prose artist, cum review and commentary on<BR/>Del Gredos, where at times the whole world trembles as though during a mild continuous earth quake! As a playwright, e.g. in THE HOUR WE KNEW NOTHING OF EACH OTHER, THE ART OF ASKING + RIDE ACROSS LAKE CONSTANCE Handke is indeed the completer of the Brechtian project of an-Antiaristotelean catharsis.<BR/><BR/>HANDKE LINKS + BLOGS<BR/>SCRIPTMANIA PROJECT MAIN SITE: http://www.handke.scriptmania.com<BR/>and 12 sub-sites<BR/><BR/>http://www.handkelectures.freeservers.com [the drama lecture]<BR/> <BR/><BR/>http://www.kultur.at/see/roloff.htm<BR/><BR/>[dem handke auf die schliche/ prosa, a book of mine about Handke]<BR/><BR/>http://begleitschreiben.twoday.net/topics/Peter+Handke/<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://handke-discussion.blogspot.com/<BR/>[the American Scholar caused controversy about Handke, reviews, detailed of Coury/Pilipp's THE WORKS OF PETER HANDKE]<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://www.artscritic.blogspot.com<BR/>[some handke material, too, the Milosevic controversy summarized]<BR/><BR/>MICHAEL ROLOFF<BR/> Member Seattle Psychoanalytic Institute and Society<BR/>this LYNX will LEAP you to all my HANDKE project sites and BLOG<BR/>S:<BR/><BR/>http://www.roloff.freeservers.com/about.html<BR/><BR/>"MAY THE FOGGY DEW BEDIAMONDIZE YOUR HOOSPRINGS!" {J. Joyce}<BR/><BR/>"Sryde Lyde Myde Vorworde Vorhorde Vorborde" [von Alvenslebe n]SUMMA POLITICOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11214697505465094305noreply@blogger.com